: Raptor 50 heli thread



nitro holic
13-09-2005, 09:57 AM
Morning all,


Thought I would start off a Raptor 50 heli thread.


Got it off Ebay for a good price and in very good condition.


Here are some pictures of my new lovehttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif. "got it up the other day" did some ok hovers'. But then..... a mighty gust of wind sent my new loveit to the ground. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif


Thank God AUSRC (chris) gave me a link to the best Heli website ever!!, I ordered the parts on Thurday night and they came through Monday Mornring, plus they are as cheap as chips.


I Think Helis are the way to go, a real challenge just to get the thing to hover let alone to get it to go forward


http://i15.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/bb/6a/d9_2.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5994171779#ebayphotohosting)


http://i13.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/bb/4e/45_2.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5994171779#ebayphotohosting)


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danhfvcsd
13-09-2005, 10:17 AM
hahaha!!!! nice one man!!! hope the crash wasn't too bad https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif did u have the training gear on it? -lol-


Looks great man https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif get some video of you hovering - it'd be good to see some REAL heli flying - not just crazy videos of madly insane moves/tricks -lol-

Sherbrodski
13-09-2005, 12:35 PM
I Think Helis are the way to go, a real challenge just to get the thing to hover let alone to get it to go forward




http://i4.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/bb/30/fe_2.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5994171779#ebayphotohosting)



True that....



...being poor is a curse.



Sherbrodski.

Skidd
13-09-2005, 12:38 PM
Well done Toby, I'll let you get all the lessons the "hard" way and then I'll milk you for all you've got. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

nitro holic
13-09-2005, 03:52 PM
Hay skidd


Please feel free to ask away, but at the moment I knownothing atall about it.


Chris has been a great help, makes you realise how good this forum is.


Just got it back together from my $150 crashhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gifhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif, while I was rebuilding it I thought I would go the whole Hog and almost strip it down to nothing.


Guess what I put it back together and it Hovershttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gifhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gifhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gifyay !!


Don't ask me if ithas forward flight I am too scaredEdited by: husky

Skidd
13-09-2005, 04:04 PM
Come on you big girls blouse... just lean on the collective joy stick. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

husky
06-11-2005, 07:41 PM
so nitro, how it all going? I went down to the local heli club today so now its a definate, im on the search for a rappy 50 and a jr 9x v2 radiohttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif. Think ill get the radio now and the reflex xtr flight sim then take my time and find a heli. What gyro, servos etc you running?

Zoro
06-11-2005, 08:00 PM
Husky,

get some 9252's for collective and cyclic
right from the get go, you'll never have to upgrade ever again. GY401
and 9254 for the tail. Try Pete from "Powergrunt Hobbies" 03 5442
9099 or rcmushroom.com both will have good pricing.

husky
06-11-2005, 08:19 PM
the web site you posted seems to need a password to enter, have contacted pete and his prices seem very reasonable

Skidd
07-11-2005, 04:12 AM
so nitro, how it all going? I went down to the local heli
club today so now its a definate, im on the search for a rappy 50 and a
jr 9x v2 radiohttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif.
Think ill get the radio now and the reflex xtr flight sim then take my
time and find a heli. What gyro, servos etc you running?



LOL... I recall a PM from not that long ago where *someone* was telling
me they were going electric so they could use the reserve just behind
their house.



Doesn't take long! https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

husky
07-11-2005, 05:47 AM
lol, i know. The club isnt too far away so its not too bad. I figured it best to fly there anyway there was plenty of help aroundhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif

nitro holic
07-11-2005, 07:12 AM
Husky,


Thr Raptor is, just great.


I had my first sunday off in ages yesterday, went down to the local club, they were really, really helpful. Got me set up and I learnt so much in one day.


Everybody there rekons the Raptor is the best heli to start on, no question.


This is what I have learnt (and hope it helps you).


1. Build your own (I am now on my second Raptor), Very easy, If you can build a Savage you can build one of these


2. As Zoro says, YOU MUST BUT A GY401 GYRO AND A 9254 for tail


3 9 channel radio is a must, (I bought a 6 channel, but now am already thinking about needing a 9, for a gov. and in the future a top of the line gyro)


4. Buy a raptor 50 from helicraft.com or rcpowersupply WITHOUT ENGINE, and buy a os 50 very cheap.


5. Get it all set up as best you can, then take it to the club and get them to test it all out for you....you may want to take a slab of beer down with you to thank them with !!


Parts for the raptor are very cheap and very very easy to get hold of, I order mine from either helicraft or rcpowersupply on a Monday and can have them here by Wednesday !!!


Sorry to say this but I am now a full time helliaddict.

AUSRC
07-11-2005, 03:55 PM
Sorry to say this but I am now a full time helliaddict.



I have been at this for 14 months now.... I have 6 Helis.... be warned.



I decked my Raptor 50 yesterday...https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif... but my Raptor 90 SE flys so nice... it got a hiding instead.



On the topic of servos, 9252's are great on cyclic, and even on
collective they will do a great job on the R50. That said, I
personally would
recommend something with a little more torque on collective.
Hitec make great servos... on my nitros they are on 3 out of the
4. I am running a Hitec HS-6985 on collective on the R90.... on
my R50 and R60 I am
running HS-6975 collective. Futaba has just released a
bunch of new servos as well, so the choice is endless. Futaba
9252s will do the job without question, but I think the extra torque
will be better when you start thrashing the air.



Here is a shot of my nitro fleet at the field yesterday. (Electrics stayed at home...)



https://www.ausrc.com/forum/members/images/AUSRC/fleet.jpg



From Front to Back.... Raptor 50 (Pre-crash), Fury Extreme, Raptor 90SE and Raptor 60 (for sale soon.....)



Regards,



Chris

Edited by: Skidd

tOiletduck
07-11-2005, 04:01 PM
Give me a PM when your selling the 60 Chris https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

Mozzy
07-11-2005, 04:12 PM
I'm using Futaba 9206's on my cyclic & collective, seems to do the job.


BTW Chris, nice line up of machinery. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif Edited by: Mozzy

husky
07-11-2005, 05:02 PM
nice fleet chris, i noticed your sig on archeli had alot more choppers than i had seen you postpics ofhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gifso the 60 goes under the chop hey.....interesting. I looked at the 9252's but they are only 90 oz where as the hitecs were alot higher in the same time. More research to dohttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gifBut i have decided to get the good stuff first, just means ill get radio and sim now and chopper, servos,gyro later.................maybehttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

husky
07-11-2005, 05:05 PM
oh and i saw a rapy 50 hit the deck yesterday. was kind of surreal as i hoped it didnt happen that often but aparently its almost a weekly occurance. Was like a burial afterwards all the guys standing around the pieceshttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

Mozzy
07-11-2005, 06:29 PM
Yep, done that before too. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

AUSRC
07-11-2005, 07:07 PM
Husky,



Good call to go with the good stuff. The number of Raptor 50's I
see that start out with JR 537 Servos because that's what comes with
the Radio is amazing... and once you have learnt to hover - they have
to go. Decent servos, an OS 50 Hyper and a decent gyro.... the
Raptor 50 is a mean machine. As a matter of fact, at 3DDU
(3D Down Under) contest held a few weeks ago, Raptor 50's took 8 of the
9 podium places. Goes to show how versitile the Raptor 50
is. It is an awesome learner and full on 3D machine... and when
you deck it... apart from blades, they are cheap to fix.



Always a shame to see a heli go in, but with R50's, it doesn't hurt so
much. It is also good to get lots of people around the crash
site, means you have a better chance of finding all the bit's that flew
off....



Only thing better than seeing a good crash, is seeing an awesome
auto. When something fails, stops, flys off or breaks and the
pilot get's the heli back to earth in one piece.... that's cool!!!



Regards,

Chris.

husky
07-11-2005, 07:43 PM
I noticed in your sig you run the 401 in the 50 for the extra $$ will i notice the difference b/w that and a 601 as a beginner?

AUSRC
07-11-2005, 08:24 PM
401 in a R50 is HEAPS.... even for pretty significant aeros and
3D. Mine holds beautifully in fast backward flight, no sign of
letting go or wag.



The bigger helis need the better gyros... but I would not recommend
anything more in the R50 than a 401/9254 combo... it is the best bang
for buck and makes the R50 a great machine.

Zoro
08-11-2005, 12:29 PM
Husky, unless you're into fast backwards flight the 601 would be
overkill the 401 can sometimes whip out in fast backwards but you can
flip it inverted, punch full negative and whilst climbing out throw
full rudder in and piro outa there. It looks like you meant to do it.https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif. Just another way to cover up mistakes.

Skidd
08-11-2005, 12:34 PM
Husky, unless you're into fast backwards flight the 601 would be
overkill the 401 can sometimes whip out in fast backwards but you can
flip it inverted, punch full negative and whilst climbing out throw
full rudder in and piro outa there. It looks like you meant to do it.https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif. Just another way to cover up mistakes.










You know.... it sounds like you're speaking English, but I can't understand a word of it. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

Zoro
08-11-2005, 01:00 PM
Sorry forgot i was in the R/C car forum (hehe). Get into heli's Skidd and you'll understand.https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif. I have a couple of DVD's here if you would like to have a squiz. 3D masters 2003 and 2004 from the UK. Excellent flying.

Mozzy
08-11-2005, 03:59 PM
It's funny, I haven't spoken to 3D pilots for around 6 yrs, but, I can understand & visualise every descriptive word.

I might have to get one of these new gyros & rip out the mozzi for some brushing up.

Skidd
09-11-2005, 04:10 AM
Sorry forgot i was in the R/C car forum (hehe). Get into heli's Skidd and you'll understand.https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif. I have a couple of DVD's here if you would like to have a squiz. 3D masters 2003 and 2004 from the UK. Excellent flying.




I'm working hard on it mate, hope to have it as a Christmas present for
myself.... I wonder how a Raptor 50 will look under the tree and if the
missus would notice it?



I'm sure the addiction will be fueled by the visit to the Victorian championships this weekend. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

Zoro
09-11-2005, 02:23 PM
I'd like to drive over for a look see myself. I came over a few months
ago for the "Heli Spectacular" in Packenham, was an excellent comp.

You'll enjoy the build when you get it. There are also a few mods that
need to be done as you go. Let me know when you're putting it together
and i can tell you what you need to know. Is better to do them as you
build it, it's a shame to pull it back apart and start doing them once
it's together.





Looks like the other half has finally turned up home with my brand new (No.2) SS4.6 kit. Now we both have one...https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif



Catchya,

Kent

husky
09-11-2005, 02:29 PM
. There are also a few mods that need to be done as you go. Let me know when you're putting it together and i can tell you what you need to know. Is better to do them as you build it, it's a shame to pull it back apart and start doing them once it's together.






Sounds good, althought the heli will be the last thing i buy, going to get the radio/electrics 1st and save the cheapest part for later. wierd, the heli itselfis the cheapest part of this little excursionhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

nitro holic
09-11-2005, 04:24 PM
Just had my Rappy out... I am in lovehttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif


I had a really shi**y csm Gyro in it, bought a Gy401 and srevo combo today, ($320https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif, could've got it a bit cheaper over the internet, but wanted it NOW)


It is like poetry, watching that thing hover, The new Gyro set up is amazing.


Husky...Mate stop ****ing around, just go and get all the gear TODAY, you could get hit buy a bus tomorrow.


Visa it up, then worry about it !!


Zoro. what are the must have mods you have done, mine is all stock and she's sweet


OH yes I bought a 2nd hand Raptor 30, as emergency back uphttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

husky
09-11-2005, 05:21 PM
lol mate, if there was anything left on the c card believe me id have one nowhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif, but im trying to be patient. Not much use me getting the heli today before i have has a bash at a sim for a whilehttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif

Zoro
09-11-2005, 06:29 PM
I'll see if i can remember. I'm sure there are other mods out there
done by different people in different ways but these are mine..



Sanding the inside of the white auto-rotation gear. Some of the older
V2's came out with some imperfections in their moulds or something and
the inside of the white gear can drag on the one-way clutch. Not good
for auto's.



The bottom canopy latch can come off in flight and cause the canopy to
jam the elevator area of the swashplate and the thing nose-dives.
Instant lawn dart.https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif It can be checked by
grabbing the nose of the heli and trying to lift the nose up by the
canopy and seeing if it "undoes" itself from the front skid crossbrace.
If it doesn't i would still recommend this mod. There's a few ways to
fix it, i have drilled through the crossbrace and put an allen headed
screw in there, then drilled out the bottom of the latch on the canopy
slightly larger than the head on the screw so that it clicks into place
when you install it. (I'm hoping this is making sense). To take the
canopy off you need to reach under the heli and pull latch over the
head of the screw then remove the rear mounts. Or you could simply
install the canopy, drill through both the canopy latch and skid
crossbrace and screw a self tapper in there.



Turning the skid cross-braces around so that the heli sits better on
the ground. With them in the standard set-up i found the tail always
sat low and not much weight over the front of the skids. Some do, some
dont. Depends how you like it.



If you have a small bearing greaser like the one that "Ricks" sell.
"The Greaser" i think its called, in the lubricants section. You should
grease the bearings as the grease that comes already packed in them
isn't that good and doesn't last very long.



You can pack some foam between the fuel tank and the side frame to stop
the little "nubs" that locate the tank from rubbing and creating a
hole.



Use lock nuts or nylocs on the exhaust to stop the pipe from vibrating its way loose.



Use some Cyno, just a drop on the boom to stop the rudder control
supports from sliding around especially the front one. Has been known
to jam where the rod kicks out on the angle.



Mount the gyro on the servo tray to stop the oil getting into it and killing it.





Don't grease the one-way clutch in the auto hub just use ATF or a light
oil and dont forget to put some light oil (Singer oil) on the tail
rotor shaft and main shaft, just a couple of drops.





As far as parts to buy "mods" wise, i have the push-pull elevator
set-up, Quick UK head block (just the centre-not the blade grips),
Carbon Extreme dampners in the head- has made the heli feel much more
responsive and stable, MP1 on the exhaust- excellent power and loud.



If i think of anything else i'll put it in here.

Again these are just some of the things that i have done to my heli
that have worked for me. These things may not work for everyone and
others may be able to add thier mods in here as well.





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nitro holic
10-11-2005, 07:05 AM
Many Thanks for taking the time to write all that !!


Very helpful, thankyou

husky
26-12-2005, 04:54 PM
well 2 full days building with only 1 hand, and i have my raptor 50 almost built, just have the blades to glue, canopy to cut out and sticker and electronics to install when they arrive, all require 2 hands so they going tohave to wait. Gotta love building a new kit, a very enjoyable buildhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif

Zoro
26-12-2005, 07:20 PM
Great thing about aircraft is they stay relatively clean in comparison
to a MT or the like. So it should stay new looking for a while. Till
they hit the deck, do the chicken dance and try and dig a hole.https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif



How long till you get your gyro and other electrics?

Have you tried RCmushroom or rotor.com? These guys are usually pretty good with pricing for that sort of stuff.

husky
26-12-2005, 07:27 PM
pete at powergrunt should have my gyro this week, servos will be longer, im going for hitec 6965's but might have to loos online if they take too long. Still waiting on the Tx but hopfuly that will be here this week too. Im planning on a trip to mrchc to get someone in the know to give it a check over, hopefully they flying this week, skidd you in?

zoomer
28-12-2005, 07:26 AM
... hopefully flying this week, skidd you in?


camera Camera CAMERA!!! https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif

Skidd
03-01-2006, 05:15 AM
hopefully they flying this week, skidd you in?



I've gotten all the gear now but haven't built anything yet. I'd
be happy to come down flying with you, just let me know when.



Holmesglen starts up again in Feb so after that I'm not sure what time
I'll have, hopefully I'll have my Sundays free but I won't know until
closer to the term start date.

husky
03-01-2006, 07:14 AM
was planning on a trip to mrchc first to get the guys to look over the heli and give it the okhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif, still cant fly with my 1 hand so i wont be flying for a while. Still waiting on some 9565's too

Skidd
03-01-2006, 08:40 AM
was planning on a trip to mrchc first to get the guys to look over the heli and give it the okhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif, still cant fly with my 1 hand so i wont be flying for a while. Still waiting on some 9565's too



So are you thinking of this weekend? Or a trip during the day?

husky
03-01-2006, 10:12 AM
i think a weekend will have more people down there

husky
04-01-2006, 03:06 PM
Loving the raptors already, my new extended family


https://www.ausrc.com/forum/members/images/husky/smaller_raptors.JPG


love these little guys, im hoping to get the 30 in the air this week, still waiting on servos and a gyro for the 50.

Skidd
06-01-2006, 04:13 AM
https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif Well done bloke.



I started my build yesterday and there is some setting up to do with
these little buggers. Should have it all done by the weekend.



Are you still looking to head down to MRCHC?

Zoro
06-01-2006, 08:32 AM
A 30 a 50, when's the 90 going to be here Husky??https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif



You may as well ditch the 30 for a scale project, parts or something
like that cooz you're never going to want to fly it after you feel the
power to weight ratio of the 50.

husky
14-01-2006, 04:45 PM
skidd, still want to get to mrchc tomorrow(sunday) will let you know if i do or give me a yell and we head down there. Zoro, the 30 will be sold as soon as i have learned to hover on ithttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gifthe 50 will be my main machine

nitro holic
14-01-2006, 06:15 PM
Hay Zoro


I Just love my Raptor 30, even though I have a Raptor 50 and a Caliber 5 to play with I only ever use the 30.


The reason is: I cannot fly very wellhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gifhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif, and I rather crash my 30 than the others !!https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif





Husky: Just have the 50 on the shelf, learn on the 30





ONE HAPPY CAMPER HERE http://www.archeli.com.au/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif : http://www.archeli.com.au/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.archeli.com.au/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

AT last a bit of flying !!!

I have been getting really pi**** off with not getting anywhere with my flying, great on the simm, but when it got down to flying for real, I just couldn't get out of hover....untill today !!!!!!!

Toby's top tip for beginers is this:

1. Take off any expensive bling that you really don't want to brake.

2. buy yourself a light beer.

2a buy yourself some real Man's beer

3. Consume said light beer

4. Say to yourself, Sod it, if I crash I crash and it's going to cost me.."get over it"

5. Say to yourself " I can do it on the simm,I can do it for real"

6. Go out there and do it..


Hay presto no crashes, and your flying.


Consume several real mans beer after you have finnished, and think to yourself.....YOU BLOODY LEGEND

husky
14-01-2006, 06:23 PM
still waiting on parts for the 50 so it will be on the shelf for a while. The 30 is good to go, with any luck tomorrow we will be heading to mrchc and have it looked over and maybe some flyinghttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif


so the trick is beer before and after flight?https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

nitro holic
14-01-2006, 06:51 PM
Only1 light beer before, Mr Husky


This may sound silly but I really have been in a "rut"


1 light beer is all that it took.

husky
14-01-2006, 07:00 PM
beer = confidencehttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif

nitro holic
14-01-2006, 07:03 PM
Yes !!


We can deduce that beer = confidence

twizm
14-01-2006, 07:18 PM
a few shots of courage never hurt anyonehttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

nitro holic
14-01-2006, 07:43 PM
That's why I love Ausrc.


over on archeli, a bunch of old women.

Oblivion
14-01-2006, 10:02 PM
we had some guy flying a heli on the oval next to our offroad race meeting last sunday, he was a damn smooth pilot too because he never over-corrected. he could swoop it a few feet off the top of a hill, gain altitude, fling the tail around 180 and fly right back and land nex to himself.. .was a pretty decent size nitro chopper too.


i got a few minutes of his flying on tape. no stunts, just some real smooth piloting skills.


i think i can safely say it would take many many hours to get that confident with yourbirds?Edited by: Oblivion

husky
15-01-2006, 05:36 PM
well finally skidd and i got down to MRCHC for a day of heli flying today. The guys down there were great, one of the guys spent close to two hours with my raptor 30 adjusting linkages and setting up the radio getting it ready for me to fly it for the first time. First flight had a surge of adrenalin and i was a happy camper, although im not sure skidd came away quite so happyhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif.

nitro holic
15-01-2006, 09:00 PM
what happened to skid ??

husky
16-01-2006, 07:28 AM
The training undercarrage dug into the ground and the raptor went over, nothing major but it put an end to his flying. It would have been an easy fix if we had some spares. Edited by: husky

husky
16-01-2006, 02:23 PM
That's why I love Ausrc.


over on archeli, a bunch of old women.








Just read your thread over there, now i know what you mean, everyones entitled to their opinion i supposehttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif

Skidd
17-01-2006, 08:05 AM
Yep, I can confirm that laying a heli on it side does more damage than laying an MT on its side. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif



Trashed a set of blades, a feathering bar and blade grip... no big deal but put an end to the flying for the day. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif



I'll definately be up for more of this once I get my spares.

nitro holic
17-01-2006, 12:22 PM
Hay Skid


My must have list for learning to fly:


at least 3 feathering spindels on hand


2 main shafts


1 to 2 sets of blades (do not buy the cheap no branded ones)


the assorted packet of rods you can get


1 set tail blades


1 packet of the pre set rods for the ailreron


1 packet of the liitle ball things the links snap onto


2 x flybar rods


All of the above should cost no more than $60 from helicraft.com


Since I have had these in my tool box I have never missed a days flying !!

Skidd
17-01-2006, 12:54 PM
Thanks bloke, I'll need to get some of that together.



Along with a few beers https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

husky
17-01-2006, 01:41 PM
thanks for the list nitrohttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gifany other consumables that should be kept spare? Have you already got the parts for the fix Andrew? Think youl be coming out this w/e? I just brought a 601 gyro for the 30(me thinks a bit of overkillhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif, but anyways......) Im hoping thats here by the w/e

nitro holic
17-01-2006, 03:46 PM
Here are a few more !!


Another Must have I forgot is :


1 to 2 booms, these are as cheap as chips,


Tail case, I have got through about 3 of these, so would put it as a must have


Other bits that I have got in the box but not needed "Yet"


1 belt


a Jr 409 servo just to get you out of trouble $25


Set of skids.


The joy with this lot that they are all very cheap, and well worth having in you kit, as it can stuff up your weekend.


A 601 on the 30 husky https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif, at least you will be able to use it one the raptor 90 when you get onehttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif

husky
17-01-2006, 04:17 PM
yes a 601 is overkill but as you say it will be ready for the 90(one dayhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)

Skidd
18-01-2006, 04:23 AM
thanks for the list nitrohttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gifany
other consumables that should be kept spare? Have you already got the
parts for the fix Andrew? Think youl be coming out this w/e? I just
brought a 601 gyro for the 30(me thinks a bit of overkillhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif, but anyways......) Im hoping thats here by the w/e



Will be picking up the repair bits today. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif



Yeah, I seen that thread for the 601 on Archeli, that was a pretty good price you got it for. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif



Will definately be up for a trip to the field this weekend... having
trouble deciding what day to aim for... Sunday is supposed to be 38
degrees (bugger that) but I think Saturday is looking like rain.



Wouldn't you be better off to chuck the 601 in the 50 and work on
getting it ready for the weekend? Maybe even use some truck sevos
on the aileron and pitch... they don't need to be too quick for
hovering.

husky
18-01-2006, 07:48 AM
thanks for the list nitrohttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gifany other consumables that should be kept spare? Have you already got the parts for the fix Andrew? Think youl be coming out this w/e? I just brought a 601 gyro for the 30(me thinks a bit of overkillhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif, but anyways......) Im hoping thats here by the w/e

Will be picking up the repair bits today. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif

Yeah, I seen that thread for the 601 on Archeli, that was a pretty good price you got it for. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif

Will definately be up for a trip to the field this weekend... having trouble deciding what day to aim for... Sunday is supposed to be 38 degrees (bugger that) but I think Saturday is looking like rain.

Wouldn't you be better off to chuck the 601 in the 50 and work on getting it ready for the weekend? Maybe even use some truck sevos on the aileron and pitch... they don't need to be too quick for hovering.



yep, thats the 601from archeli. Only cost me 30 bux more than the 401 was going to cost me new, the guy i brought it from is upgrading to the 611 so i figure it was a good dealhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif. Once i get the servos i want for the 50(might be a few months nowhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif) the 601 will go in the 50 and a 401 in the 30(if i havnt sold the 30 by then, me was looking at the 90 size helis yesterday mmmmmmm........). After simon spent over 2 hrs setting up the 30 i think im best to stick with that for nowhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif. Did your parts come from Nick? There was a guy on archeli selling heaps or rapy spares cheap yesterday

Skidd
18-01-2006, 10:00 AM
yep, thats the 601from archeli. Only cost me 30 bux more than the
401 was going to cost me new, the guy i brought it from is upgrading to
the 611 so i figure it was a good dealhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif. Once i get the servos i want for the 50(might be a few months nowhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif)
the 601 will go in the 50 and a 401 in the 30(if i havnt sold the 30 by
then, me was looking at the 90 size helis yesterday mmmmmmm........).
After simon spent over 2 hrs setting up the 30 i think im best to stick
with that for nowhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif. Did your parts come from Nick? There was a guy on archeli selling heaps or rapy spares cheap yesterday



Yeah... I picked up the bits from Nick this afternoon, so I'm all set for this weekend.



I seen the parts for sale on ArcHeli but someone offered to take the
lot as a package so I thought I'd leave it to him... the spares are
both 30 and 50 stuff so I was only interested in some of it.



What day is best for you this weekend?

husky
18-01-2006, 10:06 AM
what ever day the crickets not onhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gifna, ill come out either day. Ideally i would prefer what ever day has the most people down at the club which im guessing is sunday. What was the repair bill(if you dont mine me asking) just to see if these are as cheap to crash as everyone claims. Did you go woodies again or glass?

Skidd
18-01-2006, 10:20 AM
No I went for the fibre ones... I actually went for the ModelFlight
ones as they were only $15 more expensive than the woodies. There
is a lot of comments around on how they have had trouble with them
warping but I figured they'll be just fine for the level I'm at.



The total bill was just over $200... but that included a lot of extra
(non-crash) bits like the neck strap, frequency keys, reciever wrap and
a few other bits.



A Raptor 50 crash kit was about $40

husky
18-01-2006, 10:41 AM
what receiver wrap did you go for? I was bout to go to clark rubber and find something but i have just seen some specifically made ones for the heli receivers.

Skidd
18-01-2006, 12:24 PM
what receiver wrap did you go for? I was bout to go to
clark rubber and find something but i have just seen some specifically
made ones for the heli receivers.



Yeah, that's probably what this is... it's about 5mm neoprene (sp?)
rubber with a velcro strap included that bundles the whole thing up
nicely.



Pretty much like this one...



http://www.rchelis.com/acatalog/P1010329t.jpg



But Clark Rubber sell all of their off cuts for $0.75 so I'm sure it will be WAY cheaper from there.



There is a Clark Rubber on FTG Rd just up from Scoresby Rd.

Edited by: Skidd

AUSRC
18-01-2006, 08:22 PM
Skidd,



I am nervous.... I was playing with those blades on a heli a couple of
weeks back.... YUK... couldn't get them to track even in a hover... be
careful with them mate.



Regards,



Chris

Skidd
20-01-2006, 04:47 AM
Skidd,



I am nervous.... I was playing with those blades on a heli a couple of
weeks back.... YUK... couldn't get them to track even in a hover... be
careful with them mate.



Regards,



Chris






Geez mate... thanks for the vote of confidence. Mmmmm.... I might have to consider a spare set of something more reliable.



Thanks for that Chris. DOH!!

Oblivion
20-01-2006, 08:41 AM
having trouble deciding what day to aim for... Sunday is supposed to be 38 degrees (bugger that) but I think Saturday is looking like rain.




just dont aim for ya neck or any bystanders, i hear those heli blades really hurt https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

Skidd
20-01-2006, 09:05 AM
having trouble deciding what day to aim for... Sunday is supposed to be 38 degrees (bugger that) but I think Saturday is looking like rain.




just dont aim for ya neck or any bystanders, i hear those heli blades really hurt https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif



Actually we sorted out our aim... Sunday is now being forcast to be 41
degrees so there is no way I'll be out in that weather in a bloody
treeless paddock. Saturday is now the day.



But, to follow on your quip... one of the guys from the club was
setting up my heli and to check the blade tracking he bought the heli
to a hover with the main blades spinning at eye level about 3 metres in
front of him.



Now I built this thing and so if anyone should have faith in it, I
should. But I was real uneasy with all that junk spinning at 1600
RPM at eye level just out of arms length away... dont know how he felt
doing with something he didn't put together.

Oblivion
20-01-2006, 09:13 AM
having trouble deciding what day to aim for... Sunday is supposed to be 38 degrees (bugger that) but I think Saturday is looking like rain.




just dont aim for ya neck or any bystanders, i hear those heli blades really hurt https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif




Actually we sorted out our aim... Sunday is now being forcast to be 41 degrees so there is no way I'll be out in that weather in a bloody treeless paddock. Saturday is now the day.

But, to follow on your quip... one of the guys from the club was setting up my heli and to check the blade tracking he bought the heli to a hover with the main blades spinning at eye level about 3 metres in front of him.

Now I built this thing and so if anyone should have faith in it, I should. But I was real uneasy with all that junk spinning at 1600 RPM at eye level just out of arms length away... dont know how he felt doing with something he didn't put together.



yeah weve been in the middle of a 35+ heatwave all week, and will continue for about another week. to darn hot to do anything in this weather especially get roasted playing with your toys outside...


As for hovering at eye level, the guy either trusts your workmanship or he thinks that eyes are not a requirement to flying a heli.. maybe he can use "the power of the force" to sense where it is and what its doing?


me, im a bit of a wuss with that sorta thing. you wouldnt catch me within 10ft of a hovering heli, i dont like pain https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

Oblivion
20-01-2006, 09:34 AM
you guys might like this little snippet ive made for you..


<a href="http://users.esc.net.au/~oblivi&#111;n/rc-racing/movies/[email protected]" target="_blank">


We had aHeli at ourMorphett Vale Raceway</a> </a> (rclick, save target as)


6mb, 1min. (decent quality)


you can hear Buggy A grade warming up in the background ready for the first race of the day while the guy was showing off his chopper piloting skills. I watched him for about 5-10 mins before i got my camera out and while he didnt do anything spectacular (stunts) he was extremely smooth and not once did i see him make a correction.


One of the other racers said the dudes been flying choppers for about 20yrs.


if only the guy had a mini cam mounted to it, i would have got him to follow the cars around so we could get "heli cam" like in real racing https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif


Edited by: Oblivion

Skidd
20-01-2006, 09:51 AM
Looks like he's doing the standard F3C (??) stuff. This is the
standard set of manouevres they judge you in at competitions.



I'm hoping after a few months of constant practice I'll be able to do
some forward flight.... give it a few years and I might be where he
is. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

Oblivion
20-01-2006, 09:58 AM
Looks like he's doing the standard F3C (??) stuff. This is the standard set of manouevres they judge you in at competitions.

I'm hoping after a few months of constant practice I'll be able to do some forward flight....



We have 3 or 4 RC airfields within 1hr of Adelaide, maybe he was practising for some sort of up coming comp then.



give it a few years and I might be where he is. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif


And a few grand in repairs mate.. https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gifEdited by: Oblivion

Zoro
22-01-2006, 12:56 AM
You may want to keep a spare set of side frames too....dont ask me how i knowhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

Oblivion
22-01-2006, 07:55 AM
sounds to me like you should just keep an entire chopper on hand as a backup, would be easier than a 20L plastic tub filled with all these parts being listed.. you wouldnt have to repair it after a crash either, just toss it in the boot and get out another RTF chopperhttps://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

Zoro
22-01-2006, 08:40 AM
I actually have bought a spare heli as parts. It would be complete
except its missing the auto bearing (one way) and electronics. The
spare engine is in the plane.https://www.ausrc.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif