: Axial Wraith!



geoffcleland
23-06-2011, 08:21 PM
When can we expect to get our hands on this truck here in Aus? Some sources say July,others are tipping later in the year! Does anyone have the inside scoop on the release date here? I want mine yesterday!

bruce
23-06-2011, 10:32 PM
Have a look on crawlcanada.com, the wraith build there looks awsome they call it excessive force. The videos are sweet to. There a couple of others in the 2.2 thread aswell. Im keen to get one, tower is your best bet they might have them already and probably cheaper to.

towie964
23-06-2011, 10:47 PM
We keep getting told the same thing, stock availablity both here and in the US is non-existant.

From past experience I think we will see the Wraith about September/October, right at the beginning of the Xmas shopping season.

Travlla
23-06-2011, 10:58 PM
Check here
http://thecrawlpit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=10504

will be in stock early July,these will go pretty quick

towie964
23-06-2011, 11:18 PM
I would like to believe that to be true, the Aust Distributor has other ideas about the expected delivery time frame.

Travlla
23-06-2011, 11:36 PM
I would like to believe that to be true, the Aust Distributor has other ideas about the expected delivery time frame.

Time will tell Towie :thumb:

towie964
24-06-2011, 10:23 AM
I hope the guy who is looking at having these in 3 weeks hasnt done a deal to bring some in without going through the Aust Distributor, the last mob do do something like this caused the Aust Dist to drop the brand all together, which meant no parts support at all for that model or brand.

crusey_aus
24-06-2011, 10:41 AM
Sounds like they are buying from Tower or Amain who both have them listed as mid July

Cheers

geoffcleland
26-06-2011, 07:08 PM
We keep getting told the same thing, stock availablity both here and in the US is non-existant.

From past experience I think we will see the Wraith about September/October, right at the beginning of the Xmas shopping season.

Towie,
Thanks for the "GOOD" news-you realise that the money I have put away for my Wraith will now be spent on other R/C consumables and you know where!

towie964
26-06-2011, 09:18 PM
Geoff, fill your pocket with cold water to stop the cash burning a hole in your pocket....you can save it, I know you can. As soon as one arrives, I will send you a message, that is of course after I open it up to check it is all there in the box (he he).

Have you had a look at the "G Made" ? it looks pretty cool

geoffcleland
27-06-2011, 07:30 AM
Geoff, fill your pocket with cold water to stop the cash burning a hole in your pocket....you can save it, I know you can. As soon as one arrives, I will send you a message, that is of course after I open it up to check it is all there in the box (he he).

Have you had a look at the "G Made" ? it looks pretty cool
Towie-What can I say,you are ALL heart! I have had a look at the G Made and it's a nice bit of gear but with a Losi Night Crawler, 2 x Ax10 Scorpions,an SCX10 Honcho and a Toyota CR-01 on the shelf the G Made will stick out like dogs b***s! At least with the Wraith I can tell Kim it's just a new body on an old crawler and MIGHT get away with it!

towie964
27-06-2011, 09:50 AM
Get away with it...lol, Kim will spot that one a mile off, you got more chance of painting her Ute Pink and getting away with it.

The G-Made looks smaller, you could say size is relevant and that they increase in price as they get larger.

geoffcleland
27-06-2011, 12:20 PM
Get away with it...lol, Kim will spot that one a mile off, you got more chance of painting her Ute Pink and getting away with it.

The G-Made looks smaller, you could say size is relevant and that they increase in price as they get larger.

I thought her ute was pink?

stephoon
30-06-2011, 09:24 PM
Will be getting one of this when it becomes available in my local

geoffcleland
01-07-2011, 06:30 AM
Will be getting one of this when it becomes available in my local
You and everyone else! By the time it finally is released,it will be bigger than Texas!While I am waiting I am thinking how a VXL 3500kv motor and Sidewinder ESC would do in the Wraith or perhaps a 21.5T brushless crawler motor with the same ESC?

towie964
01-07-2011, 08:57 AM
I think the 3500KV would be a little too fast for a crawler, the 21.5 should be fine, the thing that may dampen the idea maybe, there is no drag brake on the Sidewinder.

Geoff, Does Kim's ute still have the coffee machine in the glovebox?

geoffcleland
01-07-2011, 05:41 PM
I think the 3500KV would be a little too fast for a crawler, the 21.5 should be fine, the thing that may dampen the idea maybe, there is no drag brake on the Sidewinder.

Geoff, Does Kim's ute still have the coffee machine in the glovebox?
Fair call on the VXL-don't think the lack of drag brake is an issue as it will only be a trail basher.
As far as the coffee machine in the glovebox of Kim's ute is concerned,it is now in the small toolbox on the back of the ute next to the Roundup weed spray-the coffee tastes like crap but it doesn't spill anymore!

stephoon
01-07-2011, 09:43 PM
It won't look stock after I get my hands on one. Like my mini trophy truck.

geoffcleland
02-07-2011, 06:28 AM
It won't look stock after I get my hands on one. Like my mini trophy truck.

What are you going to do to it? I'm always on the lookout for good ideas!

Travlla
03-07-2011, 08:42 PM
I got to drive a Wraith today,there were 3 at the comp,awesome truck,will post some pics later.

Sandman77
03-07-2011, 08:44 PM
where was that Trav?

Sandman77
03-07-2011, 08:47 PM
Also an interesting review on it
http://www.bigsquidrc.com/axial-wraith-review/

Travlla
03-07-2011, 09:38 PM
where was that Trav?

At a scale comp up Monbulk way ,
For non waterproof electronics they did ok under water:thumb:
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww210/Travlla/RC/IMG_1289.jpghttp://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww210/Travlla/RC/IMG_0881.jpg

stink
03-07-2011, 10:29 PM
Man that jeep body looks awesome. can someone explain the main differences between the wraith and the trail honcho aside from looks of course. Was thinking maybe a conversion could be possible?

Travlla
03-07-2011, 10:37 PM
Man that jeep body looks awesome. can someone explain the main differences between the wraith and the trail honcho aside from looks of course. Was thinking maybe a conversion could be possible?

diffs(wider new design)links,chassis,shocks,gear box is a new design,you'd pretty much have to buy the whole truck as parts.from what i could saw today,

geoffcleland
04-07-2011, 06:53 AM
Man that jeep body looks awesome. can someone explain the main differences between the wraith and the trail honcho aside from looks of course. Was thinking maybe a conversion could be possible?

Travlla is right-I have been looking at upgrade parts for when mine FINALLY arrives-I don't think there is much in the way of interchangeable parts with the Honcho.For example,the Wraith can use Axial alloy C-hubs-AX30760 and steering knuckles-Ax30762 which fit the XR10 crawler only.A way you can easily get something to look like the Wraith is to put a Proline tuber body and panels on an AX10 Scorpion(if you already have one).Better off waiting for the real thing!

stink
04-07-2011, 10:35 PM
darn hoping maybe I could get something similar put together using a roller. I reckon I will have to see it in person before I make another big investment. Come on axial!!

stephoon
21-07-2011, 08:12 PM
Sweet, mine here too! Need time to play with it now.

geoffcleland
24-07-2011, 04:29 PM
Sweet, mine here too! Need time to play with it now.

Picked mine up yesterday-They seem to be as scarce as rocking horse s!!t.After I pulled it to pieces,it is ready for the following upgrades:
Sidewinder SCT esc & 21.5T brushless motor.
Spektrum receiver.
Axial alloy 90mm piggyback shocks to lower the ride height.
DS1015 XP Digital servo.
Vanquish steering rods on order.

crusey_aus
24-07-2011, 04:33 PM
You will probably need to run a glitch buster cap or external bec with that setup Geoff

Cheers

geoffcleland
24-07-2011, 08:44 PM
You will probably need to run a glitch buster cap or external bec with that setup Geoff

Cheers

Good call-I only pulled it to bits just to find my way around it as i do with all my new vehicles-the only thing fitted are the new shocks-took it for a test run and they have made a big difference-no bounce or roll.I will wait until the stock motor dies(that won't take long!)until I fit the brushless system-I've got a Castle BEC somewhere.
Thanks for the reminder-Geoff.

scottb
29-07-2011, 10:36 PM
We keep getting told the same thing, stock availablity both here and in the US is non-existant.

From past experience I think we will see the Wraith about September/October, right at the beginning of the Xmas shopping season.

Hi Pete.....do ya recon Jerrod would order them in x2 ???

RogerDaShrubber
29-07-2011, 10:43 PM
ITs kind of strange really that these are so rare, Axial is on a real winner here and yet they do not have the production capacity to be able to supply the market. These were meant to be here already in late July, July is all but over and i doubt that we will see them anytime soon unless you have had one on order for the last 6 months. I looked on tower hobbies in the US and they have August as a restock date, which is where i would buy the one i want, $350 US is a pretty good deal with exchange rates and all compared to $500 local.

geoffcleland
31-07-2011, 02:23 PM
ITs kind of strange really that these are so rare, Axial is on a real winner here and yet they do not have the production capacity to be able to supply the market. These were meant to be here already in late July, July is all but over and i doubt that we will see them anytime soon unless you have had one on order for the last 6 months. I looked on tower hobbies in the US and they have August as a restock date, which is where i would buy the one i want, $350 US is a pretty good deal with exchange rates and all compared to $500 local.
I have seen a couple here on the Sunshine Coast-prices between $499-$525.They certainly are a piece of work out of the box.The only immediate upgrades needed are a stronger servo and replacing the steering links which are way too flexible.Lowering the suspension a bit and replacing the stock springs to overcome the bounce and body roll is not a bad option either.I have no idea why they are so scarce but i heard that the Australian Distributor only received a small part of their initial shipment so I suppose I was lucky to get mine at mate's rates as there seems to be a shortage here and overseas.
When the stock motor dies I will replace it with a Sidewinder SCT esc and 21.5 Turn brushless motor.Have Vanquish products steering links,steering knuckles,C hubs and rear lockouts on order.The plastic lower links have already been replaced with Traxxas metal ones-a cheap alternative to the original ones.:rolleyes:

Sandman77
17-09-2011, 10:13 PM
Now in kit form
http://axialracing.com/ftp/wraith_kit/index.html

towie964
18-09-2011, 09:59 AM
Hi Pete.....do ya recon Jerrod would order them in x2 ???


Missed this question, sorry Scott, yeah he has been ordering them in as fast he as he can get his hands on them

towie964
05-03-2012, 07:21 AM
Travlla is right-I have been looking at upgrade parts for when mine FINALLY arrives-I don't think there is much in the way of interchangeable parts with the Honcho.For example,the Wraith can use Axial alloy C-hubs-AX30760 and steering knuckles-Ax30762 which fit the XR10 crawler only.A way you can easily get something to look like the Wraith is to put a Proline tuber body and panels on an AX10 Scorpion(if you already have one).Better off waiting for the real thing!

The poor man's wraith....axail ax-10 with the proline Tuber Body & Panels....I am not excited.
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/towie964/P1010064.jpg

Godles
16-07-2012, 11:34 AM
ok, so who bought one and what are your thoughts?

a review i saw said the steering links were crap and the high COG was a bit crappy for the rolling........

have you had to grab any hop ups or do any setting up to correct issues?

also how did you find the stock esc/motor?

I'm looking at the RTR but if some of these are issues I might consider the kit....... which unfortunately adds up once servos, motor/esc and rx is added in.

towie964
16-07-2012, 01:02 PM
Done a little work on these and so far the things I have noticed are...

*Steering links suck...they need upgrading
*Shafts need upgrading, and sooner than later
*Shocks also not champions of their field
*Diff housing where the C Hubs attach seems to strip out easily(the screw hole) and would benefit with the use of a more open threaded screw rather than the stock one that is fitted
*Steering Knuckles upgraded to alloy is also a popular choice.

the RTR version seems to have soft screws in the build, and when removing them to change out links and shafts, like to round out in the hex, so a screw wouldn't be left unopened for long either.
Be careful with the upgrades....some parts dont play well with others...the STRC steering knuckles dont "Just Fit" straight out of the bag, and require a LOT of modification to make them work. I would avoid them until the company has worked this one out, and just use the stock knuckles for now, unless someone has a better option available.

IMO the kit version comes with most of the problem areas attended to and for the extra few buck, and having the choice of electrics and also battery, rx and esc position during the build will be an advantage

geoffcleland
18-07-2012, 07:59 AM
Have done a little bit of work on the Wraith also and agree with Towie-steering links are crap,Chubs and steering knuckles WILL break,servo needs upgrading,the standard shocks are too long and stiff-90MM shocks are a good option.Of all the upgrades,I like Vanquish Products the best-top dollar but top quality.The Axial aftermarket alloy parts are also very good and worth a look.The stock Wraith driveshafts can be strengthened by using a length of 6MM diameter metal rod cut to size and superglued inside the smaller section of the driveshaft.I have used this method and it works-MIP shafts are the best aftermarket option when the factory shafts finally fail.If you don't want to replace the stock screws on the RTR,use a drop of superglue to secure them in place.

Godles
18-07-2012, 10:01 AM
Thanks Geoff and Pete,

I am still looking at one of these, possibly as a Chrissy present so finding all the extras that I could grab straight off will be handy as I'd like to build the kit and include them in the build. I contemplated the extra front end to allow 4ws but for a day to day basher it wouldn't be needed and would cost way to much to strengthen again.

at this stage,

Kit
4pks rx
Vanquish dig set up
Vanquish C Hubs
Vanquish Knuckles
Vanquish Steering Link
Vanquish 3/16 Drag Link
Vanquish Chassis Mount Servo Kit
Vanquish Panhard Kit

bruce
18-07-2012, 10:30 AM
Hey luke
The wraith is a great toy. Mine is the kit version it was good to build and coustomise. Vanquish parts are sweet there is so a cheaper brand called topcad that look not to bad. Dont know if id bother with 4ws they have a good turning circle with uni's in. You can come round and have a look at mine if you want
Bruce

Godles
18-07-2012, 10:49 AM
I saw your one a while back, I also think Stephoon grabbed one when they came out.

have you had any issues with it? what electrics did you go for?

RogerDaShrubber
18-07-2012, 11:01 AM
I would forget the dig, as the crawl capability of this is rather poor anyway and a dig is not going to improve it much.

stephoon
18-07-2012, 11:29 AM
I did Luke, used it twice and sat on the shelf since. Kinda want to get rid of it but......I might use it again.

pagsypoop
18-07-2012, 12:02 PM
hey guys, what do u think is the best esc/motor, pinion and spur combo for the wraith that is good in crawling as well as the speed? got mine last week and cant decide which one to buy as i have no idea yet...thanks

bruce
18-07-2012, 01:05 PM
Luke my running gear is
Mamba max pro sct
13.5 venom sensored brushless
Savox 13 kg servo

geoffcleland
18-07-2012, 03:45 PM
I run a Mamba Max Pro and a Novak 18.5T sensored motor on 3S in one Wraith and a Novak Rooster ESC and RC4WD 35 turn brushed motor in the other on 2S.

Godles
18-07-2012, 03:49 PM
If I end up with this kit I will be mainly using it down at the beach with the pups and the GoPro

I've heard the brushless set ups aren't as waterproof as the 27t brushed set up........ we do also have a full rockwall so the crawling capability would be nice (especially with the GoPro weight on it)

RogerDaShrubber
18-07-2012, 03:53 PM
Sensorless brushless is ok with water, its just most sensored brushless are not, i think off the top of my head, the latest X20 LRP motors have waterprooofed sensors in the motors. 17.5T brushless would give you a nice turn of speed as well as enough torque for basic trail run type crawling.