: Raptor 50, im in.



Kaz
23-06-2008, 03:01 AM
Im in, I want a raptor 50.

Looking at prices and such now. Ive looked over all the threads and wondering if this stuff is still the go, I would like to order from the one place.

This gyro, GY401 is still the go?
http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop...products_id=22 (http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_27&products_id=22)

Can I use these servo's all around or do I need some more go for the tail or cyclic? (sp)
http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop...oducts_id=1018 (http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_28_97_102&products_id=1018)

Obviously we need this part :)
http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop...products_id=92 (http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_15_90&products_id=92)

And this
http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop...roducts_id=683 (http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_26_157&products_id=683)

and the powersource
http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop...products_id=48 (http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_24_92&products_id=48)

Can anyone recommend anything better? I'd rather not have to constantly upgrade etc. Yes for those who monitor other parts of the forum, im bored as hell with onroad rc, I want a real challenge. I will be needing 5 servo's will I not?

PS: I have no clue about Heli's. So im going to take this to the local clubs in town for some flying lessons and know-how. Wanting to get a rough idea of the price in my head to aim for. Where can I get fuel from aswell? I cant use the stuff I use for onroad nitros, because the heli's have a higher oil mix correct?

Put the whole price together based on that, im looking at $1835.

Skidd
23-06-2008, 08:21 AM
Im in, I want a raptor 50.

Looking at prices and such now. Ive looked over all the threads and wondering if this stuff is still the go, I would like to order from the one place.

This gyro, GY401 is still the go?
http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop...products_id=22 (http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_27&products_id=22)

Can I use these servo's all around or do I need some more go for the tail or cyclic? (sp)
http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop...oducts_id=1018 (http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_28_97_102&products_id=1018)

Obviously we need this part :)
http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop...products_id=92 (http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_15_90&products_id=92)

And this
http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop...roducts_id=683 (http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_26_157&products_id=683)

and the powersource
http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop...products_id=48 (http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_24_92&products_id=48)

Can anyone recommend anything better? I'd rather not have to constantly upgrade etc. Yes for those who monitor other parts of the forum, im bored as hell with onroad rc, I want a real challenge. I will be needing 5 servo's will I not?

PS: I have no clue about Heli's. So im going to take this to the local clubs in town for some flying lessons and know-how. Wanting to get a rough idea of the price in my head to aim for. Where can I get fuel from aswell? I cant use the stuff I use for onroad nitros, because the heli's have a higher oil mix correct?

Put the whole price together based on that, im looking at $1835.

Great choice on the heli... you are not likely to look back from a Rappy for a while and parts are really easy to get. Also a really good idea to get a better quality radio from the begining.

The GY401 will do a great job in that heli and will likely never need to be upgraded as even if after a few years you can outfly it, the heli may not.

The only thing I would say is that you should get the gyro with the packaged high speed servo to suit.

http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_27&products_id=23

Then when it comes to your servo choice, yes you will need 5 in total. I would only get 3 of the ones you have linked, then get a cheaper version for the throttle and of course you'll already have one for the tail included with the gyro. Pete from PowerGrunt can advise you on what he has in stock that will do the job... he's a pretty straigt forward guy.

The package look pretty good, I gather you've already considered all the field gear such as the starter, wand, fuel pump, etc.

Not to try and take business away from Pete, but to be honest if I was trying to help out a mate here at work, I'd tell him to buy a second hand one that was ready to fly. You'll save yourself a fortune and get it already set up and probably with a good radio to boot.

stevo1957
23-06-2008, 08:40 AM
I think Nitro-Drifter still has his Rappy for sale:

https://www.ausrc.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12336&highlight=raptor+50

Cheers,

Steve

Kaz
23-06-2008, 01:39 PM
Actually I haven't a clue what I need/should use for my field gear lol. Suggestions?

So I have three servos + the one inc with the gryo, and a cheaper version for throttle yeah?

Yeah I have considered ND's raptor.. its a sweet package we shall see how the money flow goes.

Also, what is Mode 1, 2 etc? what is the difference and what should i use

Peter
23-06-2008, 02:19 PM
As Skidd said above , visit the local club, which is here ... http://www.vmaa.com.au/content/clubs/club_details.php?club_id=21 , I hope its current!!!

They'll answer most of your questions..

Mode1,2 etc is the way the radio is set up to control the heli .. Mode 1 is best!!! lol . In reality , there's stuff all difference, the important mode is the one your instructor uses , you us the same , so he can help you trim etc your heli ...

If theres no heli flyers locally , keep asking for advice here .. but it's LOTS easier with an instructor beside you .... I know there's heli flyers around Horsham , and Ballarat..

Skidd
23-06-2008, 06:58 PM
Actually I haven't a clue what I need/should use for my field gear lol. Suggestions?


You will need:

A starter and wand to suit the Rappy.
A fuel pump such as a hand crank that will decant from a 4/5 litre bottle (the fule bottle you probably use for the cars won't work.
A glow plug ignitor (the car one probably will work)
A pitch guage
Ball link pliers are handy (but not essential)The good thing is the with a second hand package most of what you need will generally come with it.


So I have three servos + the one inc with the gryo, and a cheaper version for throttle yeah?


Yes... 3 of the good ones that you linked to, 1 high speed one (pre-packaged with the Gyro) and a cheapie for the throttle.


Also, what is Mode 1, 2 etc? what is the difference and what should i use

Personally I fly mode 2 because it made more sense to me when I was getting started. But when I hooked up with Peter at Coffs he couldn't fly my heli as he is mode 1.

No big deal which one you choose... but choose the mode that most others at your club use... it will be easier in the long run.

Kaz
24-06-2008, 12:38 AM
Cheers Peter and Skidd, ill look up those items that you mentioned skidd and figure out what does what etc. Once I get up to 1k or so ill visit the club. Pt fairy road sounds about right :)

Edit: can i get some links to some recomended gear that I will need (starter, wand, fuel pump, pitch gauge, ball link pliers)

Cheers guys.

Edit2: Is this a wand?
http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=161_162&products_id=348

and would this hand crank suffice?
http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=161_163&products_id=702

One more, what about a 90, what kind of run times would I get compared to the 50. How much more expensive is it to setup (say the raptor is 2k)

husky
24-06-2008, 08:40 AM
Edit2: Is this a wand?
http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=161_162&products_id=348

and would this hand crank suffice?
http://powergrunthobbies.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=161_163&products_id=702

One more, what about a 90, what kind of run times would I get compared to the 50. How much more expensive is it to setup (say the raptor is 2k)

Yes and Yes. Do not start of with a 90, much more expensive to start up and run and IMO dangerous for a beginner. Run times would be similar but they have a much larger tank = lots of wasted $$$ when learning. The R50 is a good place to start as many of us have experienced. On a statdard day with the R50 we would burn 3 - 4 litres of fuel over a day = $35. A 90 will burn twice that.

Get a simulator. Buy one now and practice before you have saved the $$ for the rappy. Look for a second hand realflight G3 for a $ wise option. Reflex is slightly more realistic IMO but requires to to use your own remote whereas realflight comes with one(cannot be used for the heli)
Visit your local club and choose the mode that most of the members there are flying, this will improve your chances of having someone help set up and test fly your heli for you(vital when beginning). Mode 2 is more intuative(flame suit on) ie cyclic controls on the one stick similar to a REAL heli:)
As skidd mentioned get a quality radio to begin with. This will save the inevidable upgrade later on and will last you many helis.
Get a sim
Join a club

husky
24-06-2008, 08:45 AM
Have a read of this thread:

https://www.ausrc.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5092

Somewhat outdated now but still very relevant for the Raptor.

dart
22-03-2009, 09:24 PM
seems like more people getting rappy in this thread
Just got mine few days ago, still on the way tho :D