New to crawling, with Venom creeper

Tappet Head · 06-11-2009, 07:26 PM

Hello LAds, got myself a venom Creeper, just got the base kit and diff lockout setup, I wanting to look into brushless setup for it, so any info on which way to head would be nice, and some sweet set up tips.

Cheers Tappet

Bug777 · 06-11-2009, 08:41 PM

Congrats on your purchase.

I run a Novak Goat crawler 21.5 brushless in my wheely king crawler & love it. Good wheel speed & control.

Tappet Head · 06-11-2009, 09:15 PM

I had a look at the goat set up, looks the goods

Steve621 · 07-11-2009, 04:42 PM

What are the advantages of a brushless setup on a crawler. im sure you get all the power you need from a massive brushed motor?

Bug777 · 07-11-2009, 07:06 PM

With the sensored brushless i have found that it is smother & has a wider speed range which comes in handy at times. It also has more power than a brushed motor & no maintanence. During crawling i get around 1hr run time per 1000Ma. So with a 5000 Mah pack that i run i get around 5hrs straight crawling.

Tappet Head · 07-11-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bug777

With the sensored brushless i have found that it is smother & has a wider speed range which comes in handy at times. It also has more power than a brushed motor & no maintanence. During crawling i get around 1hr run time per 1000Ma. So with a 5000 Mah pack that i run i get around 5hrs straight crawling.

Wow 5 hrs, what servos for the Steering should I put on it? grunt wise? I have got the remote diff locker kit for it, and a few other bits like the CkRCS suspension kit, being new to the scene and not knowing what to use and read good reviews about it, I grabbed it. I'm going to mod the diff lockers, ie, fit the servos down low, but still need to build it and see what she looks like first and how it all works. I am alos looking at changing it to behind the axel steering to protect it all a tad more, and may even make it 4x4x4. I'm keen for a Dig kit on it one day, but will get some steel diff cases first as I reckon a fair bit of load will be on em.

First step is to build it and get the bits, then see how she goes and learn what does what and how they affect handling. Then look at reliability and go from there.

Sh1mmy · 07-11-2009, 09:18 PM

I got a Hyperion DS20-FMD a while back, brilliant servo for the money (about $52 now), I kinda have a review of it down in the servo section of this forum.

Bug777 · 08-11-2009, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tappet Head

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Originally Posted by Bug777

With the sensored brushless i have found that it is smother & has a wider speed range which comes in handy at times. It also has more power than a brushed motor & no maintanence. During crawling i get around 1hr run time per 1000Ma. So with a 5000 Mah pack that i run i get around 5hrs straight crawling.

Wow 5 hrs, what servos for the Steering should I put on it? grunt wise? I have got the remote diff locker kit for it, and a few other bits like the CkRCS suspension kit, being new to the scene and not knowing what to use and read good reviews about it, I grabbed it. I'm going to mod the diff lockers, ie, fit the servos down low, but still need to build it and see what she looks like first and how it all works. I am alos looking at changing it to behind the axel steering to protect it all a tad more, and may even make it 4x4x4. I'm keen for a Dig kit on it one day, but will get some steel diff cases first as I reckon a fair bit of load will be on em.

First step is to build it and get the bits, then see how she goes and learn what does what and how they affect handling. Then look at reliability and go from there.

I am using Hitec 9kg servo's front & back. The reason for such long run times is that during crawling you are only using a small amount of throttle input.

Tappet Head · 08-11-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bug777

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Originally Posted by Tappet Head

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Originally Posted by Bug777

With the sensored brushless i have found that it is smother & has a wider speed range which comes in handy at times. It also has more power than a brushed motor & no maintanence. During crawling i get around 1hr run time per 1000Ma. So with a 5000 Mah pack that i run i get around 5hrs straight crawling.

Wow 5 hrs, what servos for the Steering should I put on it? grunt wise? I have got the remote diff locker kit for it, and a few other bits like the CkRCS suspension kit, being new to the scene and not knowing what to use and read good reviews about it, I grabbed it. I'm going to mod the diff lockers, ie, fit the servos down low, but still need to build it and see what she looks like first and how it all works. I am alos looking at changing it to behind the axel steering to protect it all a tad more, and may even make it 4x4x4. I'm keen for a Dig kit on it one day, but will get some steel diff cases first as I reckon a fair bit of load will be on em.

First step is to build it and get the bits, then see how she goes and learn what does what and how they affect handling. Then look at reliability and go from there.

I am using Hitec 9kg servo's front & back. The reason for such long run times is that during crawling you are only using a small amount of throttle input.

Cool, so the 9kg is plenty of grunt?

Bug777 · 09-11-2009, 04:44 AM

For a 2.2 I have found them good enough. I can have the whole car sitting on 1 tyre & still turn it. Plus they are cheap.

Some guys i know are using 24kg servo's on theirs but they are around the $200 each.

damo1275 · 09-11-2009, 06:47 AM

i have the goat with the 18.5 in my losi crawler and its great.
got it from the us in around 10days for around 200 bucks

scottb · 09-11-2009, 07:30 AM

Hey....grates on the crawler man, I"m running all Venom in my Losi.
18.5t brushless motor/120amp Speedy...fan cooled/with two 2p2s 4200mah 7.2v lipo"s.(saddle)all up cost me $400.
It"s going well.......

Scott

Tappet Head · 10-11-2009, 03:56 PM

you running ya lipos nice and low near the diffs?

scottb · 17-11-2009, 09:17 AM

No room on a Losi.....they have there own place near the shock towers.

Tappet Head · 18-11-2009, 08:09 PM

Cool, I finnaly pulled mine outa the box, the CRC kit came with a heap of weights, front and rear springs, links, and a few other bits that i'm not sure off. How much weight in the wheels is a good starting point?

scottb · 19-11-2009, 09:06 AM

I used mag wheel weights from a tyre fitter shop.....approx 11/2 strips per wheel....front & rear.

Scott